[Oshi No Ko]
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Oct 30, 2024 9:08 AM
#1
I for one thought it was really fitting and nice, but some ppl thought it was shit. If you did, what made you think so? |
Oct 30, 2024 9:19 AM
#2
Personally, I liked it and thought it was perfect. Ofc, I am still upset that Aqua died but people need to learn a tragic ending ≠ a bad ending. Other than that, some are unsatisfied and disappointed because they say it's poorly written and contradicts what was already built up in the manga or something. Well, everyone to their own view I guess. I for one felt it was well planned out by Akasaka-sensei. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:24 AM
#3
I liked it. A dark story must have a dark ending. The title was not initially rosy and peaceful. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:25 AM
#4
Well death flags on Aqua were pretty evident when he found out about Hikaru but yeah still sad about Aqua's death, wish we had gotten AquaXKana ship come true |
"When There Is Evil In This World That Justice Cannot Defeat, Would You Taint Your Hands With Evil To Defeat Evil? Or Would You Remain Steadfast And Righteous Even If It Means Surrendering To Evil?" |
Oct 30, 2024 9:28 AM
#5
I don't know if Aqua is even dead because the news said he had some minor damage on the head but he stabbed himself so its pretty interesting if this is a mistake or made on purpose . |
Oct 30, 2024 9:32 AM
#6
I like it. It's a great conclusion to Aqua's character. My only complaint is that it does feel rushed and, because of that, doesn't give appropriate focus to characters like Ruby. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:35 AM
#7
Aqua’s whole thing was that he was out for revenge, and he’d even be willing to throw his life away for it. I’m not upset that he quite literally did what he had always sought to do. And I know people are gonna say “well what about his feeling for Kana and closure there” or “what about how he talked about his dream to become a doctor” and how I see it is, maybe he determined that it was worth sacrificing that stuff so that the significant people in his life could be safe and happy. Sure, it’ll leave those plot threads unresolved but that’s just death. It happens without warning and won’t wait for things to be cleanly resolved before striking. Like in real life, you could get into a heated argument with someone and before you can apologize and patch things up, they could die and now that relationship will never be patched up. Idk, we still have 2 chapters left and the things that all of us are saying could end up irrelevant in the end, so let’s see how this all actually ends instead of going off of the 3rd to last chapter 😭😭😭 People love to either jump the gun for some reason or heavily overplay how bad an ending really is (like MHA, which I will die on the hill that its ending wasn’t anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be). |
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Oct 30, 2024 9:39 AM
#8
there's still 2 chapters left this is not the ending |
Oct 30, 2024 9:41 AM
#9
"Y'all ddn't like the ending" It ain't over until it's over. We have two chapters remaining. I've anticipated Aqua to die couple of months ago, so this didn't surprise me. But then I have to agree that the concluding arc felt a little bit rushed, so I'm quite afraid with the execution of the penultimate and the concluding chapters. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:43 AM
#10
dazedcowcow62 said: "Y'all ddn't like the ending" It ain't over until it's over. We have two chapters remaining. I've anticipated Aqua to die couple of months ago, so this didn't surprise me. But then I have to agree that the concluding arc felt a little bit rushed, so I'm quite afraid with the execution of the penultimate and the concluding chapters. I mean, it’s kinda over but ye ur right, I should wait in case some bullshit gets pulled. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:47 AM
#11
I think it’s a bad ending because it just makes the whole story feel like it was for nothing. Aqua has always been a tragic character and never had the chance to live for himself and I really felt like this should have been a story of him overcoming his past traumas and living a happy life that he deserved, even disregarding any ships. It also in my opinion that it destroys the other characters as well especially Akane and Kana who were always my favourite, their goals have been clear for a while now with Akane wanting to give Aqua the life he deserves and Kana (another character with a sad past) finally getting a break and ending up with Aqua. There’s also Miyako who will feel like she failed as a mother and Ruby who’ll be completely destroyed leading many people to believe she could go as far as suicide with no Aqua/sensei and no one to seek revenge on. I do however think there was a scenario in which Aqua dying could have worked, like if he was in a really desperate situation and ending up being killed by Hikaru or something in their final confrontation, but I think him committing this weird murder suicide that wasn’t even necessary since they already had evidence on Hikaru’s crimes, and especially after we spent chapters talking about aqua’s dreams of becoming a doctor and Kana’s confession. It just doesn’t make sense to me, like what was the point? He didn’t want to die, he didn’t have to die, but for some reason it seems like Aka wants us to believe that this was a some kind of a genius plan of murder suicide to protect Ruby that fooled the police and the public, and that he had no other option, when in reality it should’ve been easily figured out by any competent forensics team, and there were many other ways of eliminating the threat of Hikaru. And even if you disagree with all of that this ending is still incredibly rushed, we spent like 3 chapters on Aqua dying. This most recent chapter we got like 1 page of visual reactions from Kana, mem, Miyako and Ichigo, and just a narration from Akane of how it all played out, it’s just dreadful. If you think about it in terms of the anime which usually adapts 3 chapters per episode then this chapter would be the start of the final episode. How can you have your main character die in the final episode and then wrap everything up in the same episode. We still haven’t had proper reactions, from Kana, Mem, Miyako, Ichigo, anything from Ruby yet (although next chapter will be about her), the funeral, the reception to the 15 year lie movie, B Komachi dome concert, and some kind of epilogue. There just way to much left to cover and absolutely no time left to cover it, most of these things feel like they deserve like a full chapter each and some of them will likely end up getting 1 or 2 pages at most or won’t even been shown at all. So yeah I basically think it was a terrible ending that is also being executed terribly, there are still 2 chapters left but I don’t even know how they could possibly make it any better in my opinion. |
Oct 30, 2024 10:03 AM
#12
I don't like it but it's because me myself i'm not the type who goes on with the death of the main character |
Oct 30, 2024 10:25 AM
#13
TasteistGull219 said: I don't know if Aqua is even dead because the news said he had some minor damage on the head but he stabbed himself so its pretty interesting if this is a mistake or made on purpose . RIGHT?? But sadly no. I read the chapter 3 whole times reading each and every corner, brimming with hope that somehow he survived... But that line meant to say that Aqua probably died due to the cold water rather than his injury. I'm still traumatized.... |
Oct 30, 2024 10:26 AM
#14
TasteistGull219 said: I don't know if Aqua is even dead because the news said he had some minor damage on the head but he stabbed himself so its pretty interesting if this is a mistake or made on purpose . RIGHT?? But sadly no. I read the chapter 3 whole times reading each and every corner, brimming with hope that somehow he survived... But that line meant to say that Aqua probably died due to the cold water rather than his injury. I'm still traumatized.... |
Oct 30, 2024 10:32 AM
#15
MantisLordss said: I think it’s a bad ending because it just makes the whole story feel like it was for nothing. Aqua has always been a tragic character and never had the chance to live for himself and I really felt like this should have been a story of him overcoming his past traumas and living a happy life that he deserved, even disregarding any ships. It also in my opinion that it destroys the other characters as well especially Akane and Kana who were always my favourite, their goals have been clear for a while now with Akane wanting to give Aqua the life he deserves and Kana (another character with a sad past) finally getting a break and ending up with Aqua. There’s also Miyako who will feel like she failed as a mother and Ruby who’ll be completely destroyed leading many people to believe she could go as far as suicide with no Aqua/sensei and no one to seek revenge on. I do however think there was a scenario in which Aqua dying could have worked, like if he was in a really desperate situation and ending up being killed by Hikaru or something in their final confrontation, but I think him committing this weird murder suicide that wasn’t even necessary since they already had evidence on Hikaru’s crimes, and especially after we spent chapters talking about aqua’s dreams of becoming a doctor and Kana’s confession. It just doesn’t make sense to me, like what was the point? He didn’t want to die, he didn’t have to die, but for some reason it seems like Aka wants us to believe that this was a some kind of a genius plan of murder suicide to protect Ruby that fooled the police and the public, and that he had no other option, when in reality it should’ve been easily figured out by any competent forensics team, and there were many other ways of eliminating the threat of Hikaru. And even if you disagree with all of that this ending is still incredibly rushed, we spent like 3 chapters on Aqua dying. This most recent chapter we got like 1 page of visual reactions from Kana, mem, Miyako and Ichigo, and just a narration from Akane of how it all played out, it’s just dreadful. If you think about it in terms of the anime which usually adapts 3 chapters per episode then this chapter would be the start of the final episode. How can you have your main character die in the final episode and then wrap everything up in the same episode. We still haven’t had proper reactions, from Kana, Mem, Miyako, Ichigo, anything from Ruby yet (although next chapter will be about her), the funeral, the reception to the 15 year lie movie, B Komachi dome concert, and some kind of epilogue. There just way to much left to cover and absolutely no time left to cover it, most of these things feel like they deserve like a full chapter each and some of them will likely end up getting 1 or 2 pages at most or won’t even been shown at all. So yeah I basically think it was a terrible ending that is also being executed terribly, there are still 2 chapters left but I don’t even know how they could possibly make it any better in my opinion. I agree with u dude🗣️🫂 |
Oct 30, 2024 11:12 AM
#16
Though it isn't quite over yet, I personally think this is a fitting ending for this story. I don't agree with the notion that the whole story was for nothing because of Aquas death, I feel it's the other way around. This is a story about how Aqua made these connections with people, and was willing to give up on his own dreams and ambitions for the people he cared for. As for the build up with Kana and Aqua thinking about his future, for me, it just made Aquas selfless decision even more impactful. It has been apparent throughout the whole series that Aqua didn't spare much thought for himself, so I'm confused as to why this was such a surprise to a lot of people. |
Oct 30, 2024 11:43 AM
#17
Oct 30, 2024 12:01 PM
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Oct 30, 2024 2:28 PM
#19
Its not the ending yet but i am gonna quote someone from the reddit on this chapter. "Enough with the “realism” excuse—it’s the worst kind of coping in writing. It’s more realistic to believe in humanity’s potential and resilience than to accept this poorly written message. i accept Cyberpunk or Code Geass; here it doesn’t fit. I’d be more accepting if there was at least some narrative buildup, but we’re given bad pacing, weak development, and a shallow message with butchering of the other characters plot/roles while at it. Who is this ending meant to please? Not the fans, not the nerds, not the MC’s fans, not the shippers. Who, exactly, is supposed to like this ending? It is not “a sad “ or cool or daring ending. It is bad ending. Let’s not cope. I didn’t feel nothing. It is just so lame" Plus the fact that aqua had so much to live for and loved ones he had in his life. Even in his dying moments hes showing signs of wanting to live. But no lets toss out everything out the window for a tragic death which is a poor excuse to cover up the writing failure. |
Oct 30, 2024 3:49 PM
#21
Wouldnt have problem with this ending if there wasnt a whole arc related to him rethinking the act and finding a new reasons to continue to live. But after this arc, I consider this ending (still 2 chapters) bad. |
Oct 30, 2024 7:24 PM
#22
it's not a satisfying conclusion, but i don't outright hate it. it's just okay i guess, not a memorable ending but this whole final arc feels like it went too quick, which is sad because i liked most of this manga. |
Oct 30, 2024 8:00 PM
#23
It was way too rushed and seemed kinda forced. Aka definitely did this planning last minute and it shows. It really doesn’t feel satisfying for the story. Like so many characters seem just under utilized and not given the time they needed and some plot points too like Akane trying to stop Aqua’s plan but doing absolutely nothing to stop him but then actually helping him. Seemed like completely pointless in the end. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:34 PM
#24
for the absolute last freaking time, that was NOT the ending! what the heck bro? |
Oct 30, 2024 9:35 PM
#25
but if you meant Aqua's ending, I admit it too, I liked it. he stuck to his ideals despite wavering a bit. I acknowledge that. |
Oct 30, 2024 9:44 PM
#26
AQUA WILL LIVE (no he won't I'm quite aware of that, it's impossible, I'm just coping) just trust me he will live (no he won't I'm just lying to myself guys, it's literally impossible) what if what if what if there is some crazy plot twist and he ends up being alive (don't take me seriously I'm sleep deprived, don't hate on me pls) |
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Oct 30, 2024 11:31 PM
#27
As an anime only, idk if I can continue the series anymore. I see no reason to… |
Oct 31, 2024 12:18 AM
#28
Reply to maakizuushi
AQUA WILL LIVE (no he won't I'm quite aware of that, it's impossible, I'm just coping)
just trust me he will live (no he won't I'm just lying to myself guys, it's literally impossible)
what if what if what if there is some crazy plot twist and he ends up being alive (don't take me seriously I'm sleep deprived, don't hate on me pls)
just trust me he will live (no he won't I'm just lying to myself guys, it's literally impossible)
what if what if what if there is some crazy plot twist and he ends up being alive (don't take me seriously I'm sleep deprived, don't hate on me pls)
@gin-channnnn Read the spoilers for the 165th chapter of Oshi no Ko and don't roll off your tongue. Aqua is dead |
Oct 31, 2024 2:45 AM
#29
gebels said: @gin-channnnn Read the spoilers for the 165th chapter of Oshi no Ko and don't roll off your tongue. Aqua is dead Did you even read what I said..? I didn't mean it seriously, no need to be harsh? Sorry if that hurt you in some way lol, I said "don't take me seriously" |
Oct 31, 2024 2:56 AM
#30
gin-channnnn said: gebels said: @gin-channnnn Read the spoilers for the 165th chapter of Oshi no Ko and don't roll off your tongue. Aqua is dead Did you even read what I said..? I didn't mean it seriously, no need to be harsh? Sorry if that hurt you in some way lol, I said "don't take me seriously" U watched Gintama? |
Oct 31, 2024 3:02 AM
#31
someguy said: gin-channnnn said: gebels said: @gin-channnnn Read the spoilers for the 165th chapter of Oshi no Ko and don't roll off your tongue. Aqua is dead Did you even read what I said..? I didn't mean it seriously, no need to be harsh? Sorry if that hurt you in some way lol, I said "don't take me seriously" U watched Gintama? yesss, still didn't finish it though, about 20 more episodes to go |
Oct 31, 2024 8:09 AM
#32
I knew that he would die from the beginning, but I was hoping for a better experience, NGL. But isn't it always like this? It is hard for an author to create a well executed death for the MC... It feels like the author wasn't sure about it and simply followed the events as it wrapped themselves. I'm absolutely fine with the MC dying and sacrifice, but what's the point? For who? Who will benefit from it? And finally... are you sure, there's really no other way? But still, I don't believe Aqua died until they show the body... Akame confirmed the death, and for me he's 99,9% dead... but this what if scenario playing in my head won't go away.... but that's dumb... the author wouldn't dare, would he? Nah.. |
Oct 31, 2024 8:14 AM
#33
Muuftah said: It was way too rushed and seemed kinda forced. Aka definitely did this planning last minute and it shows. It really doesn’t feel satisfying for the story. Like so many characters seem just under utilized and not given the time they needed and some plot points too like Akane trying to stop Aqua’s plan but doing absolutely nothing to stop him but then actually helping him. Seemed like completely pointless in the end. That's my feeling about this ending... by the way, why is it so rushed? Probably not because of the magazine shutting a money maker down... so is just Aka being tired of this series? I'm fine with that, but we needed at least 10 cheapers more. I would prefer to have a small hiatus, over a rushed ending. And poor Kana, the girl didn't get a W till the end. Akane is always getting collateral damages for Aquas selfishness. Ruby... who's Ruby? |
Oct 31, 2024 8:16 AM
#34
What I like and what fits the story imo are two separate things. I see why Aqua went through this since it makes sense that Kamiki wouldn't stop unless he'd get erased from this world. But I really mourn the fact that Aqua deserved more. I think that this was planned from the very beginning. And I think it's definitely fitting to what we've seen. BUT I don't have to like it. I rather want to see a happy ending for all of them. But given how the story went and how tragic it always has been, it's not surprising to see this happening. So I think it's well executed. But man- .. do I rather want them all to be happy and... alive. Edit: for now I'm on copium, praying that something of a miracle will happen to Aqua but I would not be surprised if he's really gone. But I can keep hoping for the best until the manga really wraps up for good. |
Oct 31, 2024 11:40 AM
#35
I've seen the epsiode titled as "ending" which I gotta say confused me because it was far from a proper ending. Aqua confirmed dead but we literally hadn't seen anything about Ruby and Kana after the news hit. They are both important characters (Ruby is literally the key in Aqua's story) and their reactions would be vital to how an actual ending shapes. If we were to count just skimming over everything like "Haha ur ded and every1 is shocked lol" as an ending to this story, I can say it's geniunely the stupidest thing I've ever seen But we still have 2 more chapters and I'm still keeping my hopes up. Pretty sure chapter 164 was not an actual ending, we will see something much better. |
Oct 31, 2024 11:50 AM
#36
TasteistGull219 said: I don't know if Aqua is even dead because the news said he had some minor damage on the head but he stabbed himself so its pretty interesting if this is a mistake or made on purpose . Yeah, same issue here. I just hope it was not intentional |
Oct 31, 2024 10:56 PM
#37
Pretty clear from the set up and all the flags we got from the chapters leading up to the end what was going to happen. I liked it overall. Somber stories always stayed with me more. |
Oct 31, 2024 11:27 PM
#38
I know the story still not really end well (kinda bad) but at least i more satisfy people crazy that author not end with with ship bait (especially incest route) ending. Too much plothole if they still continue ship bait route. Oshi No Ko is not romance anime, fans are just obsess with ship. |
Nov 1, 2024 12:47 AM
#39
I absolutely hate this ending. Everything feels rushed and the pacing sucks. The ending is a total disappointment. |
Nov 1, 2024 6:17 AM
#41
we still have couple chapter left, tbh the creater did some refresh take on the " happy ending " and sugar coat we all hope for, the cheesy one, Love is war was close to end in a similar way, but due to the actions of the characters it was fitting to end as its. and in his new creation, in oshi no ko, as the OP of this post said, i agree with, its fitting, its something Aqua would have done, not realizing what we truly have, sacrificing and manipulating everything mostly for the hell of it while saying its for ruby, and at the last moments, people reveal their true self at the brink of death. ngl i am shock ( i shouldnt be, the previous chapter tried to warn us ), and horrified, since death in non esekai mangas arent common, but its Excellent work, it sticks true to what the manga is trying to convey, and just like the author showed, peer pressure could lead to some mangaki cheesing the story for ships and so on, But not here, they stuck true to the story. |
Nov 1, 2024 6:18 AM
#42
Nov 1, 2024 7:22 AM
#43
Depends on how it actually "ends" as there are two chapters left. But as far as the "confrontation" it was ruined the second Aqua stabbed himself and it being used a cover up for murder and it actually working. Even worse, Akane figures it out immediately even though the police couldn't. The author put little to no thought into this moment and it shows. Even if the series is a soap opera it's not an excuse for poor writing. |
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Nov 1, 2024 9:51 PM
#44
I binged chapters 25-163 at the end of October, and I loved the series. I like the ending, though the most recent chapter didn’t have much. I’m just interested in seeing what the last two chapters can do |
Nov 1, 2024 11:29 PM
#45
I think we've become desperate too quickly, and the despair and death that Aka is hinting at might just be another of his crazy, sadistic games aimed at fans—especially to torment Kana’s fans, who are the most affected by the news of Aqua's death. It’s understandable; yes, Ruby is his sister, but if we think logically, she’s not—she’s Sarina, grieving the death of Gorou, not a brother, using the same argument that Incest Rubbish fans. Akane knew this, and yet she feels neither regret nor guilt for not stopping Aqua or keeping a closer eye on him, even knowing what he planned to do. She trusted only her intuition, and it failed again, didn’t it? Once again, the most competent of the girls in the series is made to look useless next to Aqua's “superior” intellect. Nonsense. The one truly suffering here is Kana, who probably feels like she wants to die for real. Ruby, yes, she’s in pain too, but she won’t take her own life because, obviously, that would go against Aqua's sacrifice. Kana, however, really could be thinking she has no one and nothing left. She’s no longer with B-Komachi, and she’s lost her connection with Ruby, both as an idol and as a friend, because that link was created by Aqua—and he’s no longer here. Akane might offer support, but Kana doesn’t see it that way. Right now, the one person who could end her life, without any justification needed, is Kana Arima. Yet, I think we need to keep watching this unfold; it’s still possible that all of this is just Aka’s sadistic bluff. I also felt desperate at first, thinking there might be a way for Aqua to escape this whole foolish plan to die. But then I wondered, why is Aka placing so much emphasis on the circumstances in which Aqua's body was found? So, I decided to consult some colleagues specialised in hypothermia, people who know how to revive individuals with severely low body temperatures and understand what this does to the body. And in truth, it all aligns with a medical scenario of this nature. Another thought: Aqua wants to be a doctor. Did you know that in the interview at Toda, the medical school requires a personal interview with applicants? For us doctors and health professionals, we love hearing stories about near-death experiences and how one finds oneself afterward. No doubt, that would be a story worth telling as a doctor, right? Dr. Hoshino? |
Nov 2, 2024 5:54 AM
#46
The ending is fitting considering the whole story is pretty much a tragedy with heavy Shakespearean inspo. In real life Aqua cant kill kamiki without having to die or go to jail eventually, him escaping is just not realistic. I'm just tight that they had to bring this "realism" to my fictional entertainment about reincarnations and loli crow god's cameoing in movies. Reality sucks enough as it is don't bring that real life logic over to my escapism XD |
Nov 2, 2024 6:17 AM
#47
I’m still torn. I don’t think Aqua as a character would let himself die, he would still want to be there for Ruby and not leave Ruby on her own. Also him dying is a win for Kamiki in the end. |
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Nov 7, 2024 12:08 AM
#48
I can tell that many are looking far too much into this, and are more likely just upset that it's not usual happy go lucky kind of end where everyone that is liked survived and stuff of the sort. Along with other elements, like how the ship hasn't sailed. Certain parts weren't drawn back to. I'd bet down the line,once people have mellowed out, they won't think too badly of the ending, as this is what net is like these days. Way too reactionary. |
Nov 8, 2024 6:39 AM
#49
I knew from the start Aqua is gonna die. It was written that by. Oshi No Ko never meant to have a perfect happy ending. I always hoped it did somehow. There were lil hopes given but in the end that doesn't really matters. But Aqua fulfilled his destiny, the task which he was meant for. Letting Kamiki leave even if he went to jail was not go. Niino wouldn't have confessed and the secret ring may still be operation. Innocent people and even Ruby's life would be in danger. That scum needed to die. Killing him was his retribution of all the suffering. Only thing which bugged me how bad Kana got shafted bad. Her life was as tragic as Aqua, seeing her endure this much pain is my only complain. It's heartbreaking but very fitting ending. |
Nov 9, 2024 4:33 AM
#50
I don’t hate it, but it does drag the whole series down a bit IMO. It’s probably gone from a 10/10 to a 9/10 (or maybe even 8/10 depending on when I read ch. 166 for myself). My biggest gripe is with the lack of explanation for the Crow Girl, everything else (even the murder-suicide) is fine but not amazing in my view. |
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