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We do not need a Socialist health care system. :nono:
Obama's muslim faith
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We do not need a Socialist health care system. :nono:
I know enough of USA more than you can think. You understand one goddamn fucking thing, that individualism, forward planing and personal entrepreneurship were the bases of the capitalistic system that was in the USA, so don't try to lecture me on the US. I have relatives in Texas and in NY and I have been and have visited USA several times. I often use the word ghetto people for people who are either living in shitty suburbs and who are indirectly linked to criminal activities, drug dealing and reselling, car jacking, vandalism and grand theft but who also are a bunch of lazy ass parasites. I never claimed that health care nor social security should be free but you want people who work to pay for others. This is what happened during 27 fucking years in France from 1975 till 2002, where a bunch of lazy ass fuckers leeched social security and health care from the revenues of hard working people thanks to the socialist governments. You claim to live 50 years in the USA but how old are you then 60, 70???? You think every American would acknowledge the fact to see part of his revenues given to another person to help him to pay his medicare? You must be on another planet but not in the USA to think it can happen because it won't. For me you are a little too socialist for an American, remember that the values of socialism go in total opposition with the American values: against second amendment, against death penalty, against the war and for endless social assisting. I see many of teenagers that share your views and they are far to understand what the reality is. See what results it has given where a social system with equity for all was implemented, it failed and bankrupted the states that implemented it. Equity will never be and social justice neither, everyone for their own head, and remember that none owes you not a damn cent and not a damn thing.
Facetious
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Yes ! We don't need a socialist health care apparatus !
No way would I place my life at the discretion of DMV caliber, cost effective dOkToRs.
I contract my own doctor(s), thank you very much !
Why can't I be 50? lol
Again you are just showing what you don't know.Things like medicare,social security are socialized programs that we have had for many many years and they are not going anywhere.Everyone thinks the elderly which is what social security is about should be taken care of,we have had that system for over 70 years now.And I don't see how socialism has anything to do with 2nd amendment,death penalty or war.Death penalty is indefensible with all the innocent people proven to have been sentenced to it.And countries with much more socialized sytems go to war so no connection there eithier.And did you know that the war is overwhelminly unpopular here?Maybe being in france You Missed that.If guns and killing people and making wars is what you think most americans believe is our basic heritage then we just have a very different view.Most americans think america is about liberty,truth and justice for all.
Interesting.
We have a French citizen intensely lecturing a long time American citizen why he isn't a real American.
Ask most Americans what it means to be American and they will answer 'freedom'.
And that includes the freedom to embrace ANY legal idea or belief without fear of retribution or punishment.
We have a French citizen intensely lecturing a long time American citizen why he isn't a real American.
Ask most Americans what it means to be American and they will answer 'freedom'.
And that includes the freedom to embrace ANY legal idea or belief without fear of retribution or punishment.
Facetious
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Your grasping at straws here dude.
Obama has advisors and campaign contributers from all kinds of backrounds. Picking and choosing a few examples of people from the middle east and using that to somehow create a theory that Obama "might" be a covert muslim terrorist is ridiculous.
If you don't like Obamas/the democratic parties policies then fine. Don't vote for Obama. But don't buy into all that swift boating, mudslinging bullshit the GOP is using to besmirch Obama. And definitely don't peddle that bullshit here. Nobody's buying it.
Opposing Ideologies
No with you its opposing ideologies with him it's opposing bases of knowledge.
Facetious
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Opposing Ideologies
Are you sure ? :tongue:
I'm not 'sure' of anything.
I believe very strongly.
If you have strong proof to the contrary (as opposed to an-Obama-slip-of-the-tongue proof
), I would be genuinely curious to view it.
om3ga
It's good to be the king...
Good words.....unfortunately (as we all know), mud sticks...
I agree it's probably complete bullshit.
But I disagree with your asking/telling them to not 'peddle that here'.
Freedom of speech goes both ways. I welcome everyone's opinion on everything.
So long as I can freely tell them why I agree/disagree with it.
Facetious
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I'm not 'sure' of anything.
I believe very strongly.
If you have strong proof to the contrary (as opposed to an-Obama-slip-of-the-tongue truth
Proof comes at 1:20 ^ above. If Obama was, in fact a "Christian" he would have immediately paused and re- executed what it was that he meant. You don't continue on speaking and have an astonished Geo. Stepannawfulstuff make corrections for you, and then for the next 10 long seconds sit there and stumble and try to figure out what had just occurred and how was he going to recover uhhhhh *moves around in chair* . . uhhhhh.
No slip of the tongue at all ! He stated, ever so naturally, that of which is the truth.
Not saying Obamas exempt from anything. Question him all you like. But the "Obamas an undercover terrorist" claims are just as ridiuclous as the "9/11 was an inside job orchestrated by the Bush administration" claims.
If your gonna attack somebody, attack them with something believable. Otherwise you just make yourself look dishonest and untrustworthy.
If McCain is willing to tell such outrages lies to get himself elected, then whats to stop him from lying to us as president?
I believe you are looking for the conspiracy; you often do on here.
That's okay because many times I agree or see your point. But this time you're REALLY stretching it and it's obvious (to me, anyway).
But, that's your right.
BTW, I meant proof about American's love freedom. Not Obama.
Does religious faith matter when your stomach and wallet are getting empty day by day?
Obama or McCain will wreck economy more and more.
Religious faith matters about as much as my nephews belief that his stuffed frog "Stevie" is a real live sentient being.
Facetious
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Does religious faith matter when your stomach and wallet are getting empty day by day?
Obama or McCain will wreck economy more and more.
Well, the best candidate for the job was ousted in the primary election, as a matter of religious affiliation . . and politics, a guy who would be best equipped to resolve the matter on Wall Street.
As for the wallet being emptied, it always pays to diversify your savings investments.
Every reasonable person knows what he meant when he said " my muslim faith" and Stephanopolous incorrectly tryed to correct it to his christian faith and Obama said no I'm talking about this idea I am a muslim.There is zero evidence he has ever been a practicing muslim,not that should be a disqualifier anyway.It's just bigotry against muslims to say otherwise.I bet McVeigh who bombed Oklahoma claimed to be christian,did we hear "can't trust those christians ":dunno:
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